UFO Conjectures

Tuesday, May 02, 2017

Humanoid Encounters reported, but not to psychiatrists

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I have mentioned here, several times, Albert Rosales’ book series, Human Encounters: The Others Among Us [Triangulum publishing].

His 2016 book, providing accounts of said encounters, for the period 1900-1929 is particularly interesting, the stories inside fantastic, to say the least.

Reported encounters include many with strange women (dressed in black or white) seen floating or appearing near witnesses, a number of “wild man” encounters, and many air-ship observations, one, with Martian visitors, stumbled upon by a man (T.T. Timayenis) near Athens, Greece in 1905, derived from a 1910 Indianapolis Star story. [op. cit. Pages 48-49]

It seems that Mr. Timayenis saw two young men looking through a glass, purportedly displaying the cities and inhabitants of the planet Mars, with whom the two men were communicating via their hands and voices. T.T.T., watching, stated that the women and girls seen were “of surpassing beauty, tall and stately, with forms ‘which still haunt his dreams’"

“He also saw birds of beautiful plumage, flitting about and alighting the shoulders of maidens.”

The two men stopped gazing through their “glass” at Mars and the planet then shown in its spot in the night sky.
T.T.T. approached the two men who asked him in “excellent Greek if he could spare a light.”

T.T.T. gave them matches and cigars, and they gave him a cigar they said came from Cuba.

Then the men said they came from Mars and told him of the planet’s continuing “strife between groups” one of their enemies being “Pelasgians” who “were eventually defeated” with their survivors fleeing in airships, ending up on Earth “in the land known today as Albania” from which they became “the first settlers of Greece.”

“They then added that that the civilization on Earth was (in 1905) 100,000 years behind the Martian civilization” and “that there had not been a war on Mars for over 200,000 years” and that inhabitants “had … discovered the secret of immortality.” [ibid, Page 49]

According to the two Martians, electricity was “the secret of perpetual life.”

They told T.T.T. that the Greek “philosophers Socrates and Demosthenes were not dead but were currently alive and well in [sic] Mars.” [ibid]

The two men, named Telemachus and Phidias, then “jumped into the water, which was no less that 60 ft. deep” and wearing “long protruding skates of bright yellow metal, strapped with stout wire” they glided upon the water bringing T.T.T with them to “a  magnificent floating airship [where] they dined.” [ibid]

T.T.T. was informed that [the two Martians] were on a mission to meet Edison “in relation to a recent invention, which could prove fatal to humanity.”

T.T.T. “was brought back to shore and bade farewell to the Martians.” [Page 49]

You can guess what I believe about this imaginative and strange story.

It’s one of many, many more in the Rosales series.

What I find odd, is that such tales abound in newspapers, other accounts, and UFO lore but there is not one like story in the psychiatric literature, in the period noted here, the 1900s or earlier, and certainly only appearing in psychological papers when the UFO abduction scenarios became popular (common) in the modern era.

What causes such tales to spring forth, insanity (psychosis) or temporary, creative dementia praecox?

Or did something happen, in the case of T.T. Timayenis that provoked a scene that for him was real but in real reality was nowhere actual as reported by him.

Since there are countless stories in Mr. Rosales' books similar in telling, with different “humanoids” and circumstances, mostly differing in fantastic detail, one has to come up with a cause.

British UFO buff, Dr. David Clarke, who is an expert in folklore, would attribute such accounts to the fairy tale milieu I think.

And noted psychologist Bruno Bettelheim in his The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales “argues convincingly that fairy tales provide a unique way for children to come to terms with the dilemmas of their inner lives.” [From The Atlantic as stated at Amazon where his book may be bought].
But T.T.T. was an adult and many of the reports in the Rosales’ series are from adults, although there is a raft of children encounters that I find credible, believing children to be basically truthful when recounting bizarre experiences, accepting the caveat(s) of Dr. Bettelheim of course.

So, do such stories, as related by adults, indicate a regression to (a troubled) childhood?

Perhaps, but there may also be an external cause for such “encounters” – a cause yet to be confirmed although there are the hypotheses of Jacques Vallee with his control agency and Jose Caravaca with his “external agent.”

For me, there is an evolution to such tales, starting in the Middle Ages, when elves, sprites, and other weird entities flooded the minds of the populum pauperem coming to a head (literally) in the UFO era (and before as the 1905 “encounter” above indicates).

It’s a kind of madness, one that isn’t debilitating as schizophrenia but in that mental ball park, either a temporary neurological glitch or a psychological fluke that appears then seemingly disappears … something transitory and inherently harmless.

Whatever the stories are, they have pretty much evaporated. (No or few UFO encounters are currently running in the mainstream of ufology.)

Yet, as fictional artifacts, the tales prove entertaining; there is that.



  • The story about the two Martians by T.T. Timayens that you quote from Rosales' catalogue, was a work of fiction. Published in two Indiana newspapers it bears his name and copyright under the title. It was a science fiction short story. By 1910 stories involving Martians coming over or we going to Mars were quite commonplace.

    1910 even saw the first American science fiction film by Edison: A Trip To Mars that you can enjoy on Youtube.

    Two years later John Carter started his incredible adventures on Barsoom.

    A very short Mars fiction bibliography from the top of my head to illustrate the ubiquitousness of this type of early SF literature: Reise Eines Erdbewohners in em Mars by Geiger, 1790; Un Inhabitant de Planete Mars, 1864; War of the Worlds by Wells, 1897; Auf Zwei Planeten by Lasswitz, 1897; The Martian, by George du Maurier, 1898; Edison's Conquest of Mars by Serviss, 1898; A Messenger from Mars, Lester Lurgan, 1901; A Trip to Mars by Fenton Ash, 1906; Die Weltensegler, Drei Jahre auf dem Mars, 1910; Vom Mars zur Erde, 1914, bpth by Albert Daiber; and hundreds upon hundreds of other novels, serials, books and short stories.

    best regards,


    By Blogger theo paijmans, at Wednesday, May 03, 2017  

  • Thank you Theo.

    Rosales had this coming to him with a caveat that it couldn't be determined if it was fact or fiction.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, May 03, 2017  

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